PLANNING BOARD MINUTES SPECIAL MEETING
7:00 P.M. CITY COUNCIL
CHAMBERS JANUARY 24, 2002 RECONVENING OF JANUARY 17, 2002
MEETING
MEMBERS
PRESENT: Kenneth Smith, Chairman; Richard A.
Hopley, Building Inspector; John Sullivan; Paige Roberts;
Bradley Lown, City Council Representative; Noele Clews;
Donald Coker and George Savramis, alternates
MEMBERS ABSENT: Raymond Will; Thaddeus J.
"Ted" Jankowski,
Deputy City Manager; and, Ernie Carrier
ALSO PRESENT: David M. Holden, Planning Director
Lucy E. Tillman, Planner I
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I. PUBLIC HEARINGS
Let the record show that the Board suspended its rules and
took items I and J out of order.
I. The application of John Bosa for property
located at 248 Peverly Hill Road wherein site plan
approval is requested for the creation of a three lot
subdivision with related paving, utilities, landscaping,
drainage and associated site improvements. Said property
is shown on Assessor Plan 243 as Lots 54 and 23 and lies
within a Single Residence B district.
J. The application of John Bosa for property
located at 248 Peverly Hill Road wherein Final
Subdivision Approval is requested for the creation of
three lots from an existing lot. Proposed Lot 1 would
contain the existing buildings, have a lot area of 20,372
s.f. + and adequate continuous frontage off Peverly
Hill Road and a proposed cul-de-sac. Proposed Lot 2 would
have a lot area of 51,207 s.f. + and adequate
continuous frontage off a proposed cul-de-sac. Proposed
Lot 3 would have a lot area of 110,164 s.f. + and
adequate continuous frontage off a proposed cul-de-sac.
Said property is shown on Assessor Plan 243 as Lots 54 and
23 and lies within a Single Residence B district.
As these applications are still being worked on, Mr.
Sullivan moved to table them to the Board’s March
21, 2002, meeting. Ms. Clews seconded the motion. The
motion passed on an 8-0 vote.
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D. City Council Referral -- The purpose of this
hearing is to conduct a review of the property located at
175 Parrott Avenue and known as the JFK
Recreational Center for the purpose of submitting an
advisory recommendation to the City Council regarding the
use of the property as a site for a new public library.
Said property is shown on Assessor Plan 128 as Lot 14 and
lies within a Municipal district.
SPEAKING TO THE REFERRAL:
John O’Leary, Chairman of the Library
Building Committee, addressed the Board and spoke to the
referral from the City Council to determine the
suitability of the JFK site for the location of a new
library. He identified the experts who were present and
would speak to the matters encompassed in the decision;
those being soil conditions, parking and traffic. The
traffic and parking consultant was identified as Dave
DeBaie of VHB. The soil consultant was identified as
Charles Nickerson of R W Gillespie & Associates.
Mr. O’Leary went on to state that over the past 14
years he has worked with various City Councils to address
the need for a new library. He referred to an eight-page
chronology that he had with him outlining the stops along
the way adding that a file exists a file a foot and a half
high containing newspaper articles regarding a new
library.
According to Mr. O’Leary in December of 1988, the
City Council voted to accept the City Manager’s
report on a new library. In 1994, members of the Library
Building Committee met with the Portsmouth Advocates, the
Historic District Commission, the Planning Board, and the
Rotary Club to provide information about the library
project.
Mr. O’Leary went on to stated that in 1996 a joint
session of the Planning Board and the Historic District
Commission was held to talk about a library pointing out
that people were aware of the process the Committee was
going through. In 1997, the Capital Improvement Program
recommended that the library be built.
In 1999, Mayor Sirrell appointed a New Library Building
Committee consisting of 17 members at the time. At a
subsequent work session with the City Council, the
Committee was given permission to continue moving the
process along.
In November, 1999, the referendum question of "Do you
believe the City of Portsmouth should build a new public
library?" was voted favorably by 60% of those who
voted.
In October, 2000, the New Library Building Committee
re-examined various sites. The JFK site moved to the top
of the list based on successful negotiations with
Spinnaker Point. In July, 2001, the New Library Building
Committee re-affirmed that vote. On January 8th
of this year the Technical Advisory Committee (TAC)
endorsed the project at this site.
Mr. O’Leary reiterated that the need for a new
library was confirmed in the fall of 1999 by a positive
referendum vote of the citizens of Portsmouth.
With regard to the selection of a site, Mr. O’Leary
commented that during the past three years an invitation
was extend to anyone or everyone to come forward
reiterating that by two separate votes of the committee,
the JFK site is the preferred site. It was his opinion
that there would never be a perfect site; that there would
be challenges to every possible site adding that a project
of this magnitude in an urban area would always provide
challenges. He stated that the committee is trying to meet
its objective of providing citizens with a quality site.
Mr. O’Leary recognized that some citizens have
concerns; that the same concerns were raised by committee
members during the selection of the site and need to be
addressed in the plans for the library. However, he did
feel that some concerns were based on misconception and
misinformation. He welcomed the opportunity to set the
record straight concerning these matters.
David Holden, Planning Director, explained that a
very narrow issue is being presented to the Board
referring to the August 6, 2001, City Council referral to
the Planing Board for a report back with recommendations.
The information sought from the Board is on soils, parking
and traffic upon which the retained consultants would
report.
Mr. Holden went on to inform those present that the
minutes of the January 8th TAC meeting were
available for the public at the back of the Council
Chambers. He reported that TAC did not find any
information regarding soils, traffic and parking that
would adversely impact the site as a library.
Mr. Holden reminded the Board that they were not reviewing
a site plan. The plan before the Board is a conceptual
plan to define whether the JFK site is a suitable site for
a new library. The City Council would then be faced with
certain policy issues as to whether it would be
appropriate to expend funds for architectural/engineering
services.
Mr. Smith reiterated that the hearing would be
limited to the issues of soils, parking and traffic with
the Board ultimately making a recommendation to the City
Council. He went on to explain that if the site is found
to be feasible and the City Council chooses to go forward,
then another round of meetings would follow pointing out
that Site Review falls back to the Planning Board. He
spoke to meetings before TAC, the Traffic/Safety
Committee, and the Historic District Commission (advisory
only). Mr. Smith informed those present that the City
Council would be taking up the library issue at its
February 4th meeting. He reiterated that copies
of the TAC minutes were available at the back of the
Council Chambers.
At this point in the proceedings, Steve Parkinson,
Public Works Director for the City, addressed the Board
and informed them that the City had contracted with R. W.
Gillespie & Associates, Inc. regarding the soils
issue. Borings were performed and a report was created
which would be explained by Charles Nickerson, PE. Mr.
Parkinson spoke to Mr. Nickerson’s credentials.
Mr. Nickerson addressed the Board and stated that
the investigation of the site included seven test borings.
Five were done on the 27th of September and two
were done on the 16th of November (2001). Fill
materials were found which were probably placed to level
and grade the site in the past. Some peat material was
also found which was underlain with clay material
indigenous to the southern New Hampshire area.
Mr. Nickerson explained that the anticipated loads for a
library are very heavy structure loads. The presence of
fill and peat would make the use of slab on grade
prohibitive. A deep foundation system was recommended,
typically, driven pilings which would support the first
and second floors. The pilings would be driven down to
bedrock, some 30’ to 35’ below ground surface.
With regard to the issue of groundwater in the area, Mr.
Nickerson commented that at this point it had not been
determined if the new library would have a basement. It
was his opinion that if there was a basement level, the
foundation could be designed to control moisture.
Mr. Sullivan inquired if Mr. Nickerson had determined,
through the results of the borings, that the site was not
adequate for a building of this magnitude. Mr.
Nickerson’s response was in the negative indicating
that it was his opinion that a ten-story building could be
built on the JFK site adding that the site was very usable
for the purposes of a library.
Ms. Roberts asked if Mr. Nickerson had a sense of the
affect on the water table. Mr. Nickerson responded that by
using a stormwater drainage system, the impact would be
benign. A different
story might occur if the library was the first building
going in; then, the area might see a noticeable impact.
Mr. Lown inquired as to how far the pilings would have to
go with bedrock some 30’ down and clay on top. Mr.
Nickerson reiterated that the pilings would have to go to
bedrock. He pointed out that the parking garage has
pilings going to 28’; that the hospital on Borthwick
Avenue is built on pilings.
Ms. Clews inquired as to how much noise would be
associated with the driving of the pilings. Mr. Nickerson
indicated that a diesel pile driver could be somewhat
noisy. Ms. Clews inquired as to how many pilings would be
required. Mr. Nickerson spoke to clusters of pilings
spread throughout the structure.
Mr. Coker inquired as to the length of time it would take
to drive the pilings down. Mr. Nickerson felt that a
minimum of six to eight pilings could be driven per day
with a maximum of ten to twelve per day. Considering set
up time, drive piling time and leaving the site, he
thought it would take two to three weeks.
Mr. Sullivan inquired as to the life expectancy of the
pilings. Mr. Nickerson responded that the pilings are
designed for external loading conditions and should last
for one hundred years easily; surely more than 50.
Mr. Lown inquired as to the likelihood of damaging
foundations in the neighborhood with Mr. Nickerson
responding that such would be very unlikely in that a
buffer exists between the building and the adjoining
properties adding that the driving of pilings is not like
blasting. He stated that pile-driving vibrations are very
hard to measure 15’ to 20’ away. He compared
it to heavy equipment or a truck driving by one’s
house.
John Burke, Parking and Transportation Engineer for
the City, spoke to Dave DeBaie’s credentials. Mr.
Burke informed those present that the City had conducted
data collecting efforts and provided the information to
VHB. He spoke to such data as 24 hour parking counts, peak
hour counts, speed and accident data and a parking
utilization survey. He stated that September 18, 2001 was
chosen as a day when multiple activities were taking place
on Parrott Avenue. The Middle School was in session.
District Court was in session. Downtown employees were
parking in the Parrott Avenue lot and the playing fields
were being used to the maximum extent possible. On
September 18th, Leary Field was being used for
children’s soccer. The soccer season extends over a
period of 16 weekdays and is the largest recreational
event that occurs in that area..
Mr. DeBaie addressed the Board and stated that
Julie Tyson would be assisting him in a Power Point
presentation. He further stated that 100 copies of the
presentation were available in the Portsmouth Room. It was
his opinion that the parking supply would be greater than
the parking demand, be it only by three spaces. His chart
indicated that the parking supply of 313 spaces would be
greater than the parking demand of 310 spaces. He pointed
out that there are 91 parking spaces available at the
South Mill Pond parking area which is an area that is
close to the center field or baseball diamond. The lot was
observed at peak time and was found to be only 40%
occupied.
It was determined that the peak condition (for the area in
question) occurs on a weekday at
5:00 p.m. Mr. DeBaie pointed out that on street parking is
a popular commodity for the soccer people. Demand for
weekend parking; say on a Saturday at noon in October, is
no where near the demand for a weekday.
Mr. DeBaie explained that doorway counts were done at the
existing library in correlation with a recent parking
survey. Also questions were asked about mode of
transportation. It was interesting to note that about 30%
of the traffic at the library are walkers and people
riding bicycles. The peak hour activity at the library was
determined to be at 3:30 p.m.
It was Mr. DeBaie’s opinion that fewer parents would
have to drive children to the library at the JFK site as
it would be located close to a residential neighborhood.
As far as options are concerned, Mr. DeBaie felt that the
South Mill Pond parking lot could be reconfigured to
provide 28 more spaces; that the present layout is
inefficient; that the parking area could be squared with
some additional pavement. It was his opinion that the
existing playground equipment and trees could be
"preserved".
Mr. DeBaie announced that the option of angle parking
along Parrott Avenue, which could provide 30 additional
spaces, would not be pursued as part of the library
project.
He pointed out that at this time, they were working with a
conceptual plan only. With regard to traffic, Mr. DeBaie
reported that the intersections of Parrott and Rogers,
Parrott and Richards and Richards and Middle were looked
at. It was his opinion that any additional delay would be
insignificant; that good operations would still be
available at the Parrott and Rogers and Parrott and
Richards intersections.
With regard to the Middle Street/ Richards Avenue
intersection, there is difficulty in making left turns at
the present time. A significant delay is considered to be
50 seconds or longer. He felt that fewer people would
travel that way; that people would find another way to
avoid that delay. It was his opinion that there would be
no significant change to that intersection after the
project is built.
He reiterated the option of a better use of the South Mill
Pond parking lot adding that the use of gates and a
walkway to Parrott Avenue could easily be accommodated.
Mr. Coker stated that the presentation was a very
interesting one adding that he lives downtown and is very
familiar with the parking areas. He made it clear that he
believes that the City needs a new library; however, he
expressed his concern with the realities of what was being
presented. He went on to explain that he tries to find a
parking space in the Parrott Avenue area at 8:15 a.m. when
his leased parking space expires. There are many, many
days when he can’t find a space in the Parrott
Avenue lot, the Middle School lot, or the municipal
parking lot between the Middle School and the JFK or on
Parrott Avenue. It was Mr. Coker’s opinion that the
South Mill Pond parking lot is not part of the equation.
Besides soccer activities, Mr. Coker stated that
men’s and women’s softball, played during the
spring and summer, fills every parking place. He also
mentioned the Little League baseball activities.
Mr. Coker stated that he was confused with the
determination that the worst case scenario occurs during
16 days of the soccer season. He stated that he had a hard
time accepting that conclusion as he lives in the area.
Mr. Coker asked for an explanation as to why the sampling
was limited to only two days. He felt that men’s and
women’s softball and Little League games had a
greater impact on parking than children's soccer.
John Burke stated that an intensive parking survey
was conducted some three or four years ago which has been
periodically updated. He urged Mr. Coker to attend a
soccer event; that there are
400 to 500 people on the fields. He pointed out that
school is not in session during summer activities.
Russ Wilson, Recreation Director for the City of
Portsmouth, re-affirmed Mr. Burke’s statement that
it is not unusual to have 400 to 500 people in attendance
on any given Tuesday or Thursday during the soccer season.
Ms. Clews commented that this is probably one of the more
difficult decisions she has had to make. She did not feel
that there was anyone who was against a new library. She
pointed out that it is the Board’s role to determine
whether it really makes sense to have a library at the JFK
site.
Mr. DeBaie pointed out that the plan is a conceptual one.
Ms. Clews wondered how many actual days would be looked at
with a more formal report. Mr. DeBaie responded by stating
that their eyes would be open to worst case conditions.
Ms. Clews spoke to the 29 parking spaces where the school
buses usually queue. She also asked about the thought that
the buses might turn around in the library parking lot
rather than exiting at the Richards Avenue/Parrott Avenue
intersection. Mr. DeBaie felt that consideration would be
given to circulating buses in a manner different that what
presently exists.
John Burke commented that the Richards/Parrott
Avenues intersection operates very efficiently and very
quickly as far as the school buses are concerned; that
crossing guards usually have the buses out in five
minutes.
Ms. Clews inquired as to Mr. DeBaie’s comments that
the playground equipment and trees would be preserved
(South Mill Pond parking lot). It was Mr. DeBaie’s
opinion that the trees would be saved; and, therefore, the
trees would protect the equipment.
Mr. Lown referred to one of Mr. DeBaie’s charts
which indicated that only 60% of the available spaces are
occupied between the hours of 9:00 a.m. to 12:00 noon. Mr.
Lown inquired as to where the other 40% are located
pointing out that he is a frequent visitor to the
Portsmouth District Court in the morning and he can never
find a space to park. The response was that spaces are
available in the Middle School lot, the municipal lot
between the school and the JFK and the JFK lot. John
Burke pointed out that at 12 noon only 20% of the JFK
parking lot is utilized. In other words, the spaces are
available at the lower end of Parrott Avenue.
Mr. Sullivan inquired if consideration had been given to
traffic on Parrott Avenue when the Middle School empties
out. Mr. DeBaie responded by stating that the evening peak
had been identified as being between the hours of 4:00
p.m. to 6:00 p.m. Mr. Sullivan stated that he was just
concerned about the time when the Middle School is being
emptied out what with parents picking up youngsters and
teachers coming and going. He wondered if Parrott Avenue
was safe enough to handle the density of traffic on it.
Mr. DeBaie felt that some Middle School students would
walk to the library after school.
Mr. Coker commented that from personal experience, it
would appear that there would be problems with parking and
traffic. Mr. DeBaie pointed out that in terms of an
overall deficit, there isn’t one, reiterating that
there would be enough supply to cover a worst case demand.
Mr. Coker then referred to the intersection capacity
summary which stated that the intersection would go from
bad to worse; from a Level of Service E to a Level of
Service F. Mr. DeBaie stated that one has to look at
delay; sometimes a few seconds difference changes the
Level of Service. Mr. Coker wondered if any thought had
been given to the idea of closing off Parrott Avenue. Mr.
DeBaie responded by stating that such a consideration was
not part of the evaluation.
Ms. Roberts inquired if the surplus parking supply took
into account the option of 28 extra spaces at the South
Mill Pond parking lot with Mr. DeBaie responding in the
negative. Ms. Roberts continued on by stating that she
seems to have some sense of history of neighborhood
residents having off-street parking privileges at the JFK
site and she wondered if that situation had been taken
into account. John Burke responded that such was
taken into account; that the JFK site is not really used
right now. He surmised that 13 spaces are used by the
residents during the day.
Ms. Clews inquired as to how many people would use the new
library. Mr. DeBaie responded by stating that it is
estimated that there will be 100 vehicle trips in and 105
vehicle trips out during a peak hour. Factoring in walkers
and those using bicycles, he estimated 100 to 150 people
at a peak time. Ms. Clews asked if the numbers were based
on the service at the existing library. Mr. DeBaie
commented that ITE data is used as it relates to the
square footage of a building.
Mr. Smith inquired as to whether or not a signal would be
needed at the intersection of Middle Street and Richards
Avenue or any other location to help traffic flow. Mr.
DeBaie stated that they did not see a need for a traffic
signal due to increased traffic from the proposed library.
Mr. Smith wondered if a redesign of the school parking lot
had been considered. Mr. DeBaie responded by stating that
was something that could be looked at.
John Burke commented that there are a lot of
municipal uses going on; that there is the ability to
shift demand and to have shared uses. He informed the
Chairman, Mr. Smith, that the School Department had agreed
to look at the Middle School parking lot.
Mr. Smith stated that a one or two word response would
suffice to the question as to whether the site would work
with regard to traffic and parking. Mr. DeBaie responded
with a "yes, sir".
John O’Leary returned to the podium and
expressed his appreciation for the strong support for the
library. He stated that criteria had been set up in
looking at various sites; that there was a strong
sentiment that the library remain in the downtown; that
any downtown location will have some of the traffic
problems that have been discussed; that there is no way
around it; that there is no perfect site for a library in
the City.
Having said that, Mr. O’Leary pointed out that the
committee had looked at locations which would best meet
objectives; that the committee and City staff feel that
the Parrott Avenue location provides the best opportunity
to do that. He stated that they believe the information
presented by the experts indicates that the site is a
suitable site for a library. The soil conditions will
support a building at this site. He felt that traffic
conditions were such that would allow the site to function
as a library and also allow other functions to continue.
Mr. O’Leary continued on by stating that they knew
if they received a positive vote from the Planning Board
and the City Council, that the job was not done. However,
they feel that the JFK site provides them with the best
opportunity to provide Portsmouth with a library that the
citizens have indicated they want. He expressed the hope
that the Board would allow the committee to go forward
with the site and to work with all concerned.
Bob Reynolds of Lafayette Road addressed the Board
and stated that he had been a Security Officer at the
Portsmouth District Court for a number of years. He
referred to some photographs and wondered where the open
parking spots were located. He spoke to the unloading of
buses in
front of the Middle School and wondered why the spaces
immediately in front of the school couldn’t be used
for parking suggesting that Parrott Avenue could be
blocked off during the times the buses are loading and
unloading.
Teresa Garabedian of 80 Buckminster Way spoke in
support of the Parrott Avenue site based on the testimony
given and her own research. She stated that the proposed
site is close to downtown pointing out that there will
never ever be a site that would be perfect. She urged the
Board not to dwell on the concerns of a handful of
residents and urged those in support of the site to speak
at the February 4th City Council meeting and
not remain silent.
Sherm Pridham, Director of the Portsmouth Public
Library, addressed the committee and stated that he
believed the library would be a wonderful neighbor; that
the existing library is already dynamic; that they have an
excellent staff. The thing that is missing is a building.
Cecily Hancock of 401 State Street spoke to her
concern about any change in groundwater level.
Tom Decker of 182 Richards Avenue stated that he
was intrigued by the prospect of a library close to home.
However, he was concerned about some of the issues that
had been presented. He didn’t understand the theory
that people would not use the Richards Avenue/Middle
Street intersection. He pointed out that Richards Avenue
is a narrow street being 21’ wide in one section and
22’ wide in another. He wondered what an additional
100 cars would do to traffic. He questioned the value of
data collected on September 18th pointing out
that people tended to stay home after the tragic events of
September 11th. He also expressed his concern
as to drainage problems. He wondered if the project was
receiving the same review as a 40,000 s.f. commercial
building would receive. He warned against municipal
sprawl.
Charlie Vaughan of 50 Pleasant Point Drive stated
that a basement level would require pumps and a
humidifier. He felt that the site was an appropriate site
for a library and supported the site. It was his opinion
that there are parking alternatives even daring to suggest
turning the Little League ball park into a parking lot. He
urged the Board to move the site along to the City
Council.
Paul Elkins of 45 Rogers Street commented on the
size of the proposed library – a huge building. He
spoke to what he sees as an increase in traffic and
referred to the Senior Citizens van and the arrival of the
school buses at 7:30 a.m. (which he indicated is short
term); then the arrival of commuters who work downtown. He
felt it was only common sense that more people would be
using the library what with the meeting rooms and the
computer stations. He felt that traffic would be coming
down three inadequate routes.
Frank Getman of 410 Richards Avenue spoke in
favor of a new library and in favor of the JFK location.
He stated that he had come to the meeting with an open
slate; however, he was leaving with some concerns. He
thought that the parking analysis was lacking in
thoroughness and expressed his concern that a proper
analysis was not done. He thought that the option of
additional parking at the South Mill Pond playground was a
bad idea; that the playground is used extensively and he
wondered what "protecting equipment" meant.
Paul McEachern of Dennett Street stated that he
felt that he had more history with the new library than
any one in the room pointing out that in the late
‘60s he was Chairman of the New Library Committee
(laughter); that it had been determined in 1969 that
Portsmouth needed a new library.
Attorney McEachern went on to state that in public life it
is sometimes easier to defer a decision. An example of
that is the Portsmouth Public Library. It was his opinion
that a library is the soul
and spirit of a community adding that a library is an
asset to any neighborhood in the country. He remarked that
he would love to have it on Dennett Street; that he would
love to have it within walking distance for the children.
It was his opinion that the JFK site was a wonderful site.
He went on to state that one could look at traffic studies
and intersections all day and all night. He felt that
Portsmouth had a wonderful opportunity to make a new
library happen and to do it now. It was his opinion that
property values within walking distance of the new library
would go up.
In concluding his statements, he felt that Middle School
students would walk to the library after school and their
parents would pick them up later.
Lee Lorusso of 380 Greeenside Avenue, a member of
the library trustees, stated that she is the mother of
three small children and spoke to the difficulty of
getting to the current library adding that she would love
to have a library in her back yard.
Ruth Griffin of 479 Richards Avenue addressed the
Board and stated that she has lived in the area since
January 2, 1938. She stated that she is not a geologist.
However, she knows that when it rains, the rain goes into
the ground and on Richards Avenue the runoff goes into
most every basement of the houses on Richards Avenue. She
stated that her house is one of three in a high location
and she has a sump pump in her basement (which was working
on the day of the meeting much to the delight of her
geese).
She went on to state that Ms. Clews' house on South
Street sits on top of a hill; that it used to be an ideal
spot to slide in the winter. At the bottom of that hill,
is Spring Street and Willow Lane. She wondered why the
streets were named that way (laughter) adding that water
will meet its own level.
She then spoke to pilings going down 30' to 35' to
hold a library on land that has been manmade. She
mentioned the land that had been filled in to accommodate
a handball court. She referred to a tree line of swamp
maples on the site in question that grow very fast as
there is plenty of water to keep the trees going. It was
her opinion that Alumni Field is like a wet meadow.
She felt that the site was problematic for a library and
that water would be going through as it did with the
Middle School. She did not feel that the land was stable
enough.
Ms. Griffin stated that she was in favor of a new library
in the City of Portsmouth.
She then discussed the parking problems on Parrott Avenue
and felt it would be a shame to take away the playground.
She expressed her concern that the playground and tennis
courts would be gone because of expansion.
She concluded by stating that she did not know the
solution. She urged the Board to look seriously at the
siting of the library.
Claudia Morner of 304 Sagamore Avenue, a member of
the New Library Building Committee, stated that the
Wisconsin Study was used in choosing a site for the
library; that the decision was not something that was made
quick and dirty. It was her opinion that the JFK site
would be a wonderful site for a library and further felt
that it would be used at different times than some other
uses in the neighborhood. She concluded by stating that
the library would be a great neighbor.
Esther Kennedy of 122 Richards Avenue stated that
she had come to the meeting with an open slate. She stated
that she was an educator; and that she has spent a lot of
hours in the Portsmouth library.
She went on to state that she did not have a lot of faith
in the traffic information that had been presented and
suggested that a formal study might look at other nights.
Her other concern was with groundwater and how the siting
of the library would affect her basement.
She stated that she needs more answers; that she was
leaving the meeting with questions. She stated that she
does want to see a new library. She felt there was very
little parking available during the summer months and she
expressed her concern as to the safety of the children.
She concluded by stating that the community of Richards
Avenue needed more answers.
Meg Gilman of 272 New Castle Avenue stated that she
has a special affinity for the current library as it used
to be her great-aunt's house. She appreciated the
concerns of the neighborhood about traffic patterns;
however, she could not foresee a lot of people driving
down Rogers Street to get to the library. She felt that
the idea of closing off Parrott Avenue was an interesting
suggestion.
She reiterated that she understood the concern of the
residents of Richards Avenue regarding traffic; that with
a municipal building there will always be traffic.
However, she felt that library traffic was not constant
and steady. It ebbs and flows.
Ms. Gilman stated that she supported the JFK site as a
location for the library. She felt it was time.
As far as the problem with the water table is concerned,
she pointed out that it is not clear that there will be a
basement.
Harold Ecker of 422 Banfield Road informed the
Board that he voted for a new library. He spoke to any
encumbrance on any green space and any infringement upon
softball fields. He wanted to be sure that there would be
parking for the softball fields.
Bert Cohen of 28 Mark Street expressed his
strong support for the Parrott Avenue lot. It was his
opinion that people would be able to walk to the site and
that the parking and water flow issues could be resolved.
Karin Scott of 377 Richards Avenue was not sure she
could support the JFK site for a new library. She urged
the Board to look at the issues closely and to not take
away green space for children to play.
Christine Duffy, a resident of Richards Avenue,
stated that she agreed with Ruth Griffin. Parking is
pretty tough. Ms. Duffy commented that she was against any
infringement on open space. She felt that the South
Playground area is a gem in the City of Portsmouth. She
stated that she worries about children and traffic on
Parrott Avenue. She concluded her statements by stating
that she supports a new library; however, she wondered
what would be lost if the JFK site was chosen.
Diane Kelly Tefft of 69 Richards Avenue stated that
she is in favor of a new library; however, she is not
comfortable with the JFK site. She did not feel that
activities could be staggered. She argued that the site is
not downtown; that the site is bordered by residential
properties.
It was her opinion that people would not walk to the site.
She felt that parking would intrude into the
neighborhoods; that there would be an increase in traffic
created by parents picking up children at peak times.
She inquired as to any parking resolution for Richards
Avenue; that she disagreed that there are available spaces
at the JFK site. The Chair indicated that such an issue
was not before the Board at the present time; that the
site review process would include a more in depth site
plan and review by the Traffic/Safety Committee.
Ms. Tefft wondered about the revamping of school buses and
how many parking spaces would be lost. She asked if senior
buses and vans had been factored into the equation. It was
her opinion that the parking utilization chart was flawed.
She referred to the '72 Open Space Plan, the Master
Plan and a Household Census Survey regarding the
importance of recreation to the citizens of Portsmouth .
Ms. Tefft spoke to further paving around the South Mill
Pond. She felt that the Board would probably deny a
commercial development with the same traffic issues and
loss of open space. The Chair assured Ms. Tefft that the
City must follow the same rules as any commercial
developer.
John Robertson of 139 Sherburne Avenue stated that
he appreciated the concerns of the opponents to the site.
However, it was his feeling that there is no perfect site.
He expressed his appreciation for the work that the New
Library Building Committee had done and felt that the
issues could be resolved. He pointed out that the
committee overwhelmingly thought the site to be the best
site adding that the library is usually closed on Friday
and Saturday evenings and on holidays.
Rachel Hamilton of 135 Richards Avenue pointed out
that a section of Richards Avenue used to be known as
Joshua Street; that some of the houses date from 1806 to
1813 and are included in the Architectural History of the
Piscataqua. The Chair interjected that the Board had
received her letter regarding the Historic District
Commission.
She spoke to her personal experience with traffic having
lived on Richards Avenue for the past eight years. She
also spoke to foundation and plaster damage due to current
traffic vibrations. She felt that traffic was a
significant issue what with her home being located at the
corner of Richards and Parrott Avenues. She spoke to
flooding issues, the loss of green space, and the
consideration of any historical impact on the
neighborhood.
Doug Roberts of 247 Richards Avenue spoke in favor
of a new library. However, he felt that the traffic
analysis was a little lacking. He stated that his concern
was where people would go if not to exit onto Richards
Avenue and Middle Street. He felt there were a lot of
issues that had not been resolved.
Boyd Morrison of 210 Broad Street inquired as to
any comprehensive master plan for the South Mill Pond and
the projected traffic impact associated with the
construction of a large public building. The Planning
Director, David Holden, interjected that there are rules
and regulations that apply; however, it was premature at
this time to go into that detail. Mr. Morrison indicated
that he had not heard a lot about street capacity.
A resident of 79 Richards Avenue agreed with many of the
concerns that had been expressed; especially the safety
(or lack thereof) of the Richards Avenue/Middle Street
intersection.
There being no further speakers, the Chair declared the
Public Hearing closed.
DISCUSSION AND DECISION OF THE BOARD:
The Chair noted that a lot of questions had arisen from
the traffic study. He indicated that the site review
process would dictate an intensive traffic study. The
issue of the playground equipment would also be part of
the site review process as well as the drainage issue.
Mr. Gillespie remarked that the area in question is all
manmade ground, pretty much wetland. It was his opinion
that if the library building had no basement, then the
pilings would not impact the flow of water from the upland
areas to the South Mill Pond. If there is a basement
level, there would be a need for pumps. The pumping within
that immediate area would draw the water down to the South
Mill Pond.
Mr. Parkinson stated that the current site sheet flows
with the only catch basin structure being located in the
parking lot by the Middle School which drains towards the
Mill Pond. If the site were to be used for a library, then
drainage collection would be placed at various spots
throughout the lot in a similar manner as a parking lot.
Mr. Sullivan spoke to the City's long-range plans to
alleviate underground water flooding levels along Richards
Avenue. He felt that the plan to separate stormwater
runoff from the sewer system for that entire area should
really help people on Richards Avenue.
Dave Allen, the City's Deputy Public Works Director,
indicated that the time frame for such a separation would
be within a year's time.
Mr. Sullivan referred to Ruth Griffin's comment about
Spring Street commenting that the springs are still
working. It was his feeling that under present
regulations, none of the houses in that area would be
developed.
Ms. Clews spoke to the presence of clay 4' down. She
spoke to the existing trees. The removal of the trees
would result in more water on that site which she felt
would not be a real good thing. She hoped that the City
could do something to provide relief whether or not the
JFK site is used as a library site.
John Burke wanted to assure the public that an intensive
traffic study would be done and would include the
intersection of Richards Avenue and Middle Street. It was
his opinion that a traffic signal would only increase the
amount of vehicles passing through that intersection. He
felt there were other alternatives to going south;
specifically, South Street and Junkins Avenue.
Mr. Burke reiterated that the playground parking lot is
tremendously inefficient. It was his opinion that with a
small amount of additional paving, some valuable spaces
could be provided. He stated that there would be no impact
to trees or playground equipment.
Discussion continued on the expanded use of the South Mill
Pond parking lot; especially for athletic events with the
proper alignment of the gate. Mr. Burke commented that by
using the South Mill Pond parking lot, people would be no
streets to cross.
John O'Leary returned to the podium pointing out that
the spaces at the JFK site are not being used to the
fullest extent possible due Spinnaker Point. He spoke to
the comments that had been made about green space and
recreation space. He pointed out that he had spent 10
years on the Recreation Board and was chairman of the
committee involved with the athletic fields at the High
School so he recognizes the value of green space.
In conclusion, Mr. O'Leary informed those present that
Leary Field was named after his father's cousin so
nothing would ever be done to harm Leary Field.
Mr. Coker commented that the decision was a difficult one
for him; that he is a library user. The knowledge that the
City has to follow its own zoning rules is a comfort to
him adding that a lot of cities do not do that. He stated
that there is no question that there is no perfect site;
that public benefit has to outweigh any individual or
neighborhood impact.
He went on to state that he was not comfortable with the
traffic and parking studies reiterating that he lives in
the area; that he knows how tough it is to find a parking
space. On the other hand, he (Mr. Coker) is in the
business of doing reports and he knows how tough it is to
have a report taken apart.
Mr. Coker felt that the site failed on the parking and
traffic issue; that sufficient information had not been
presented on the traffic impact to the neighborhood and on
parking issues.
Mr. Savramis stated that he saw the need for and supported
a new library. He went on to state that he liked the site;
that no site is perfect. He felt that the JFK site was the
best site that the City had for a library. However, having
said that, he stated that he did have a problem with the
parking. He felt that it was insufficient. He concluded by
stating that he just did not feel comfortable with it.
The Chair stated that the issue here is whether the site
is an appropriate site; that more details of the actual
parking study will come under Site Review.
Mr. Holden interjected that if there is a sentiment that
the site is appropriate, the Board could cite its
reservations for the City Council's awareness. If the
Board finds no interest in the site, then the motion could
be far simpler.
The Chair commented that the charge back to the City
Council could include issues with parking. He reminded
those present that the Council would be taking up the
library issue at its December 4th meeting. He
reiterated that the site review process would require an
intensive traffic study and commented that the site might
fail then. He repeated that the Traffic/Safety Committee
would also review the project.
Ms. Clews moved that the Board give a
"qualified" approval of the site to the City
Council listing the following conditions/reservations:
parking, traffic, water problems (drainage) that
neighborhood residents feel may be an issue; and, erosion
of green space. Mr. Sullivan seconded the motion.
In speaking to her motion, Ms. Clews stated that the site
may work. However, she didn't feel comfortable with
the information as presented.
In speaking to his second, Mr. Sullivan remarked that he
had listened very carefully to the experts; that he took
them at their word; that they are far more knowledgeable
in traffic studies, soils and parking situations than he
certainly is. It was his opinion that the parking and
traffic issues were solvable and workable.
As far as soils are concerned, he felt that a water tight
building could be built and that the City's long-range
plan would alleviate the flooding problem on Richards
Avenue problem and would come together pretty much at the
same time as the new library building would be
constructed.
He went on to state that he was satisfied because the site
would be back before the Board and the Board would have
another whack at it.
He went on to wonder if the library would require extra
spaces. He spoke to the spaces behind the armory which the
residents of Richards Avenue are using. He thought there
were a lot of "ifies". He suggested having a
certain area for the Middle School teachers to park and
give them a pass to park there.
He concluded by stating that there were no insurmountable
problems or stumbling blocks; that the Board should let
the City Council know that the Board has some misgivings,
some problems that needed to be worked out. Otherwise, he
gave the site his stamp of approval.
Mr. Lown commented that he had great respect for those
opposing the project; such as, Ruth Griffin and Diane
Kelly Tefft. However, he went on to state that the Board
is voting on the suitability of a site. He stated that six
different downtown sites were considered; that all of
those six sites would have problems with parking and
traffic.
He went on to state that what the Board is doing is
passing the site onto the City Council for further
consideration. He stated that he was not in a position to
stop that process pointing out that the process may be
stopped at any point along the way.
He agreed that the recommendation should be a
"qualified" one; that by so doing, the Board
would be allowing the public and the City Council to have
more input on the issues; such as, cost, open space,
design.
He stated that he was opposed to any angled parking on
Parrott Avenue; to any increase in the South Playground
parking lot; that he was in favor of allowing the
residents of Richards Avenue to park in the JFK lot; that
he would suggest making Richards Avenue one-way from
Middle Street to Parrott Avenue.
In concluding, he stated that at the minimum, the site
meets a minimum threshold.
Ms. Roberts thanked all the citizens who came out for the
meeting and who listed a lot of important issues. She
concurred with Mr. Sullivan that these are issues that can
be addressed. She pointed out that the City is already
addressing the problem of stormwater separation. She felt
that such issues as water runoff, playground equipment,
intrusion along the green space along the South Mill Pond
were critical issues to be considered in a more
comprehensive plan.
Mr. Coker thanked his fellow Board members for their
comments and felt that Mr. Sullivan was right on the money
in stating that the problems are solvable. He felt that
the site could be moved forward as a "qualified"
site.
The Chair commented that the Board had received some
letters; that they had been read by the Board members and
were on file. He stated that the minutes of the meeting
would be attached to the motion to the City Council.
The motion passed on an 8-0 vote.
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At this point in the proceedings, the Planning Director,
David Holden, reminded the Board of the section in their
Rules and Procedures regarding the length of a meeting;
namely, if a meeting continues past 10:00 p.m. a decision
shall be made whether to remain past 10:30 p.m. to
complete an Agenda or to table the remaining items to a
date and time certain. It was Mr. Holden's opinion
that there were no time sensitive items remaining on the
Agenda.
Mr. Sullivan commented that the Public Hearing on the
library went longer than anyone thought it would, and in
fairness to those interested in the remaining items, he
moved to stay and finish the Agenda. Mr. Coker seconded
the motion. On a roll call vote, the motion failed on a
2-6 vote with Messrs. Sullivan and Coker voting in the
affirmative, and Ms. Clews, Ms. Roberts, and Messrs. Lown,
Savramis, Hopley, and the Chair voting in the negative.
It was the consensus of the Board that one item would be
taken up before adjourning for the evening.
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E. The application of Joseph Arnstein for property
located off Foch Avenue wherein Preliminary
Approval is requested for a lot line relocation which
would result in the following: Property known as 25 Foch
Avenue would have a lot area of 12,886 s.f. The adjacent
vacant lot would have a lot area of 44,428 s.f. Said
property is shown on Assessor Plan 233 as Lots 140 and 144
and lies within a Single Residence B district.
Let the record show that the Chair stepped down from
sitting on this application and handed the gavel over to
Ms. Clews.
SPEAKING TO THE APPLICATION:
John Chagnon of Ambit Engineering expressed his
appreciation for the Board hearing the petition at a late
hour. The request is for Preliminary Approval to relocate
a lot line situated between two lots owned by Mr.
Arnstein; one lot has been developed with the other
proposed for development. The vacant lot recently received
a Conditional Use Permit for a driveway in the buffer zone
in order to minimize any impact to the wetlands. The
relocated lot line would allow the driveway to be on the
property of the lot that it serves and to allow future
users of the lot to live in harmony. The proposal requires
Board of Adjustment approval for the creation of a
non-conforming lot as to area. Mr. Chagnon stated that he
would like to go to the Board of Adjustment with the
Board's Preliminary Approval.
There being no further speakers, the Chair declared the
Public Hearing closed.
DECISION AND DISCUSSION OF THE BOARD:
Mr. Sullivan moved approval subject to the following three
stipulations mentioned in the department's memo:
- That Board of Adjustment Approval be secured to allow
lot 140 to decrease in area from 14,996 s.f. to 12,886
s.f.;
- That permanent boundary markers be established per the
requirements of the Department of Public Works; and,
- That when all the aforementioned are satisfactorily
completed, that application be made to this Board for
Final Subdivision Approval.
Mr. Lown seconded the motion. The motion passed on an 8-0
vote.
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Mr. Hopley moved that the remaining items on the Agenda be
tabled to the Board's February 21st,
meeting with the items to be at the top of the Agenda. Mr.
Sullivan seconded the motion. The motion passed on an 8-0
vote.
F. The application of the Estate of Mary Yager for
property located at 2200 Lafayette Road and 2236
Lafayette Road wherein Preliminary Approval is
requested for a lot line relocation which would result in
the following: Property at 2200 Lafayette Road would have
a lot area of 36,446 s.f. Property at 2236 Lafayette Road,
being used as a Meineke Muffler facility, would have a lot
area of 22,453 s.f. Said property is shown on Assessor
Plan 267 as Lots 1 and 2 and lies within a General
Business district.
G. The application of Kevin Ravenelle for property
located at 2859 Lafayette Road wherein a
Conditional Use Permit is requested as allowed in Article
VI, Section 10-608(B) of the Zoning Ordinance for
the construction of a 60’ x 40’ car washing
facility with related paving and parking within an Inland
Wetlands Protection District. Said property is shown on
Assessor Plan 286 as Lot 20 and lies within a General
Business district.
H The application of Raymond Ramsey for property
located off Kearsarge Way wherein a Conditional Use
Permit is requested as allowed in Article VI, Section
10-608(A) of the Zoning Ordinance for the treatment
of stormwater runoff associated with the proposed
construction of a 100 room hotel which would involve the
placement of a V-notch weir and some stone riprap in an
existing drainage swale within an Inland Wetlands
Protection District. Said property is shown on Assessor
Plan 218 as Lot 22 and lies within a General Business
district.
K. City Council Referral – Request of
George Rogers of Deer Street Associates to rezone
property located at 157 and 165 Deer Street from
the Office Research district to the General Business
district. Said property is shown on Assessor Plan 125 as
Lots 17 and 18.
III. NEW BUSINESS
A. Stephen Little License Request re: Moebus
Terrace
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- ADJOURNMENT was had at 10:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Barbara B. Driscoll
Acting Secretary for the Planning Board
These minutes were approved by the Planning Board at its
February 21, 2002, meeting.
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